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After many years writing for a living, I retired (quit) about 25 years ago, founded out city's first ISP, lost a lot of money, quit again, and have been farting around since, doing websites, some teaching (in the Buddha's discourses), writing, and enjoying being an octogenarian in pretty good health, with two successful kids, three exceptional grandchildren, and the wife I married 58 years ago and still love dearly.